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GUS Daily Digest Fri, 3 Mar 95 9:37 PST Volume 20: Issue 3
Today's Topics:
>GUS standard mem...
about qemm and dos4gw and gus...
ACE
ADPCM and DDSP
Closed Account
Descent
Digest Back Issues?
Game patches?
GUS and Aces of the deep
GUS Daily Digest V20 #2 (2 msgs)
GUS MAX freezes my computer
GUS memory poll.
GUS on NT reply
gus tech questions
HELL (the game)
Hello?
Microprose e-mail address
Microprose wimps out!
Missing Ultramid Header Files
new GUS card RAM standards
Protected mode soft
Reply from Gravis about Windows'95
Right to Privacy?, Senate Bill S. 314
Sound Station & CD Audio
subscribe
Where to get Patches
Windows Problem
XCOM
Standard Info:
- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 9:03:14 EST
From: "Brian K. Dowtin" <dowtin@ncat.edu>
Subject: >GUS standard mem...
David,
I think the key here is not standard memory but - expandability. It
seems that in general, consumers are willing to spend extra for a name
(i.e. Creative Labs) - but not for superior technology :) i.e. GUS.
So - it's more a question of selling price vs. features. Creative
Labs may be able to get away with selling a $300 sound card. But I
personally don't think it will be the 'next thing'.
I think the key - if there could be just one - is to make the card
1. Affordable - to the point of cheap even.
2. But - Expandable, expandable, expandable.
I think that may be the reason behind all the sales of "Wavetable
Daughterboards". - they are an 'expansion option'
Just my thoughts...
`Brian
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:17:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Ignatius Tam <tam@cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: about qemm and dos4gw and gus...
Hi guys,
someone said in yesterday that they're having trouble using qemmm
and dos4gw and gus, well, for all of you who have ears (and those who don't
already know this fact):
DPMI DOES NOT NEED ANY EMM386, QEMM, ETC!!!
kick off any memory managers when u're using any dpmi
programs, or else u're prompted to mysterious blackhole...
(i don't want to explain this in this group, find the reason by yourself)
u don't need to worry about conventional memory since dpmi has taken care
for you.
study how to make a multi config in dos 6, i have one for ems and
one for xms/dpmi and the other two with cd drivers loading, i didn't
even make any bootdisk in my life... i was very surprised very few
people did this.
if u need help setting up multi config, i can help...
ok, that's it, NO MORE FUSS about memory managers, EVER, in this group!
-iGnatius
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:21:24 +0100 (MET)
From: Danny Greefhorst <dgreefho@cs.ruu.nl>
Subject: ACE
someone wrote:
>Please share your experience with the UltraSound ACE wavetable card.
Well; I've been using it as a standalone card in stead of my gus 3.4
and it seems to work just like the other card. The only things it misses are:
- joystick connection
- cd-rom connectors
- ability to record
What I don't like is that I still can't regulate te line-in level of
my ultrasound. I'm trying to put the ACE next to a trust soundexpert 16+,
beacuse my other ultrasound didn't quite cope with that.
Danny ;)
--
Danny Greefhorst(dgreefho@cs.ruu.nl) | Utrecht University
CGN A142, tel. 030-539252 | Department of Computer Science
working on Ariadne and Elmo | The Netherlands
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 15:43:49 +0100
From: "W.H. Li" <130314@pc-lab.fbk.eur.nl>
Subject: ADPCM and DDSP
Hi
I have a Gus Max and a 486 25sx computer with 8mb.
When I use UltraSound Studio with ADPCM compression, the recorded
sound "cracks" and is distorted. Is this a soft- or hardware problem?
Some soundcards use DSP to emulate Soundblaster and GM. Since the Gus
Max also has a DSP, is it possible to enhance current emulation
of soundcards using the DSP on the Max?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:30:48 -0500
From: Quang V Le <qle@osf1.gmu.edu>
Subject: Closed Account
ACCOUNT qle@osf1.gmu.edu IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
IF THIS IS A LIST, THEN PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:39:38 -0800 (PST)
From: John Hong <jhong@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
Subject: Descent
I've just got descent and I must say that it is a great game, much better
then Doom. But the sound does not work. I have a GUS with 1 meg of
RAM. But every time I run the program it would reboot my system. I see
all the title screens but after the screen that says "Loading Data" it
would reboot my system. Has anyone else had that problem or is my
computer a special case? Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
I've tried just about everything, (clean boot, fooled around with memory
managers etc...) I've got a 486 DX 33 with 4 MEGS of RAM.
You know this game would be even better if I could get sound out of it.
-John
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 20:24:11 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Digest Back Issues?
To: gus-general@mail.orst.edu
Hi!
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone that sent back
issues of this digest to me when I last requested some.
I have a small problem again though -> I miss the Vol.19 Issue #26
digest! Have no idea why it was never
delivered to my mailbox, but here I am
without a copy.
If someone could email me a copy, I'll be eternally grateful!
Thanks!
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:52:08 -0800 (PST)
From: h0mi <homi@netcom.com>
Subject: Game patches?
I was wondering if game patches existed that would allow native gus
support for:
Tie fighter
Xwing
Xcom
Dark Forces
I also want to know if someone can direct me to an ftp site where I can
grab Dark Forces. I used to have it but deleted it when I couldn't get it
to run on my system after I added 4 megs (to total 8). For what its
worth, I've got a Gus with 1meg on board.
Last question- would it be worthwhile for me to upgrade to the GUS max,
from my current Gus with 1 meg? I ask because Im not certain of any
advantages to the max, other than the 16bit recording abilities without
getting a daughtercard. I dont think I can use the ram on the GUS with
the Max anyway, which would mean spending even more money on a 1meg
GusMax. When is this new Gravis card due out?
"I have no respect for the passion of equality, which seems to me merely
idealizing envy." Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. homi@netcom.com
Constantly on the lookout for more additions to my Kill file.
Anyone else tempted to add /*.aol.com/a:j to your kill file?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:37:13 +0200
From: Mikko Issakainen <miissaka@silmu.cc.jyu.fi>
Subject: GUS and Aces of the deep
Try this:
To get something out of Ultrsasound in Aces of the deep,
edit the RESOURCE.CFG file.
In Sound section change driver to e024 and port to 220.
In Music section change driver to a002 and port to 228.
You'll hear the sound effects but not any music. The effects will sound
better if you modify your AT BUS clock setting in BIOS... Because I had
some 'snap crackle pop'-problems with it but they disappeared after
changing that setting.
Does anyone know how to get music out of it???? Or there some new updates
(I have cd-rom version, which is newer than the floppy version) to it??
Mikko Issakainen
miissaka@silmu.jyu.fi
miissaka@tukki.jyu.fi
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:34:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Fang <eric@starburst.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V20 #2
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 12:31:18 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ADPCM driver and GUS
> I've got a GUS (not the MAX yet) and have Microsoft's ADPCM drivers
> installed for Compression of AUDIO. I don't have any software however
> which uses these drivers when recording WAV file's, so I can't
> compress.
>
> At work I have a SB 16ASP (don't kill me, it's my boss's fault) and an
> SB program which does use the ADPCM driver. Is there something like it
> for the GUS?
:I assumed that the MicroSoft ADPCM drivers (which tend to
:come with MicroSoft CDs, like Encarta and Dangerous Creatures)
:were just for playback. Given that they are not soundcard specific,
:they must just decode the compressed data and feed it to the
:real soundcard driver.
:You can record ordinary WAVs with the GUS, and then convert to
:ADPCM using e.g. CoolEdit.
Yes, you can do it this way, but it is going to be SLOW!! What he probably
wants is windows gravis ADPCM software that uses hardware
compress/decompress on the fly like gravis's DOS software USS does. NOT
windows ADPCM codec. I have been asking about this kind of software for a
long time, no response so far for some reason.
Eric
:I assumed that direct ADPCM recording relied on the compression
:being done on the card (does a SB 16ASP do this?).
------------------------------
Date: Thu Mar 2 09:37:05 PST 1995
From: gus-general-request@gaia.ucs.orst.edu (GUS Server)
Subject: GUS Daily Digest V20 #2
Message-ID: <199503021928.LAA18601@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
GUS Daily Digest Thu, 2 Mar 95 9:37 PST Volume 20: Issue 2
Today's Topics:
2 Joysticks
ADPCM driver and GUS
AVI File's + Windows + GUS
Descent
GUS and System Shock (2 msgs)
GUS Daily Digest V19 #27
GUS Daily Digest V20 #1
GUS on NT?
GUS problems with Doom/Doom2/Heretic
Gus with 32 Mb ram onboard?
Gus with Aces of Deep\Wings of Glory
iPhone?
IPHONE and GUS
MicroProse wimps out!
Midi
PC Gamer Reader's Choice Awards-VOTE for the GUS!
Welp, heeeeere's the results of the GUS memory poll
Standard Info:
- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 15:21:56 EST
From: riwasiow@chat.carleton.ca (Rafal Iwasiow)
Subject: 2 Joysticks
I'm having trouble connecting my gravis joystick and gravis gamepad to
my Gus. I've purchased a Y-cable but when I connect the two
joysticks, no matter which one is set as the second one, its buttons
do not work. I read a while back (1 month) someone mentioned a
problem with Y-cables and that they had a diagram of how to change
them. If so where would I be able to get such an illustration. Is
there any other way to fix this? Or there special Y-cables designed
for the gravis? If so where could I acuire one?
Any help would be appreciated.
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-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 12:31:18 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ADPCM driver and GUS
> I've got a GUS (not the MAX yet) and have Microsoft's ADPCM drivers
> installed for Compression of AUDIO. I don't have any software however
> which uses these drivers when recording WAV file's, so I can't
> compress.
>
> At work I have a SB 16ASP (don't kill me, it's my boss's fault) and an
> SB program which does use the ADPCM driver. Is there something like it
> for the GUS?
I assumed that the MicroSoft ADPCM drivers (which tend to
come with MicroSoft CDs, like Encarta and Dangerous Creatures)
were just for playback. Given that they are not soundcard specific,
they must just decode the compressed data and feed it to the
real soundcard driver.
You can record ordinary WAVs with the GUS, and then convert to
ADPCM using e.g. CoolEdit.
I assumed that direct ADPCM recording relied on the compression
being done on the card (does a SB 16ASP do this?).
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:17:00 -0500
From: Dennis-'t.Hart@lcnnl.sprint.com
Subject: AVI File's + Windows + GUS
Message-ID: <"Thu Mar 2 10:17:03 199501*/G=Dennis-'t/S=Hart/OU=2496WVLC/O=TMNL.LCN/PRMD=LANGATE/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=GB/"@MHS>
TO ALL WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH AVI FILE'S + WINDOWS + GUS!!!!!:
In Control Panel - Drivers - Gus driver - setup :
decrease the buffers (standard 4096) to 512Kb.
AVI file's should play perfect now.
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e-Mail : dennis-'t.hart@lcnnl.sprint.com
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 15:44:09 EST
From: riwasiow@chat.carleton.ca (Rafal Iwasiow)
Subject: Descent
I have the full version of the game but I'm having some problems with
sound. I have a gus with 1 mg, 486DX66 8mg ram. The music plays
really well and sounds great, likewise with the effects when shooting,
they are really good, however, I don't get all the effects that I
should. For example in the first level where you find the big vent
Fan near the beginning, I can't here the sound it makes like I did
hear in the shareware version 1.1, I know that the game should say
cheater when any codes are entered but mine does not say it, only
writes it on the screen. Does anyone know what's wrong?!
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Greetings from
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | |__________| | | | | |__________| | | | | |__________
| |____________| | | | |____________| | | | |___________/|
| |_______________|/ | |____________| | | | |___________|/
| | | \ \ \ | | | | | | | | |
| | | \ \ \ | | | | | | | | |
| | | \ \ \ | | | | | | | | |
| | | \ \ \ | | | | | | | | |
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Rafal Iwasiow
at Carleton University
If you can't beat 'em, cheat 'em
Email address: riwasiow@chat.carleton.ca
ag337@freenet.carleton.ca
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:26:47 +0100 (MET)
From: tgakem@chem.tue.nl
Subject: Re: GUS and System Shock
> From: karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna)
> Subject: GUS and System Shock
>
> For the most part, the GUS seems to work native-mode with System Shock,
> but I've been noticing some oddities. Every now and then, I start
> hearing random instruments in the background! It seems to occur
> sometimes, when sound fx are supposed to be played. The only other time
> I've seen this happen with the GUS is when I load MegaEm, and only then
> with two games I've tried (Dragon's Lair, which uses SB, and works fine
> with SBOS, and World of Xeen, which uses MT-32 music and SB sound fx).
> Has anyone else encountered this?
>
> BTW, I've encountered no problems like this if I tell System Shock to use
> my Reveal SC500 for sound fx, and just use the GUS for the music.
>
> Thanks!
No, I never encountered this, but I guess I do know what happens. When
using MegaEm, you load patches in GUS memory. Digital playback however
also needs a little of the GUS's memory. If you look at the default
ultramid.ini, with the default ultrasound patch set, you will see that
you have a little GUS memory left, which is needed for digital playback.
Now there are several ways things can be screwed up:
* You have replaced some of the original patches by larger ones,
* or you changed ultramid.ini (in case of MegaEm, or ultramid),
* or the game developpers forgot to leave some (I don't know how much
exactly is needed) memory for digital playback.
It should be solvable changing ultramid.ini, or replacing one of the used
patches by a smaller one.
Eric Meijer
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 15:44:15 +0100
From: Jens-Uwe.Jansen@Germany.EU.net
Subject: Re: GUS and System Shock
Hi,,
> For the most part, the GUS seems to work native-mode with System Shock,
> but I've been noticing some oddities. Every now and then, I start
> hearing random instruments in the background! It seems to occur
> sometimes, when sound fx are supposed to be played. The only other time
> I've seen this happen with the GUS is when I load MegaEm, and only then
> with two games I've tried (Dragon's Lair, which uses SB, and works fine
> with SBOS, and World of Xeen, which uses MT-32 music and SB sound fx).
> Has anyone else encountered this?
>
> BTW, I've encountered no problems like this if I tell System Shock to use
> my Reveal SC500 for sound fx, and just use the GUS for the music.
Hmm... I have seen the same problems with System Shock, especially when I
tried to silence the music and then turn it on again, or when I died and had
to restart. This also often happens if some game crashes and reboots the
machine. That can be very annoying, because the card continues to play the
cacaophony until the card is initialized in the CONFIG.SYS.. which is quite a
long time on my machine, because the ATI GUP video card does quite some
testing on its internal hardware on any reboot :-)
Does anyone know what causes this ??
But I had no problem whatsoever with World Of Xeen using GM+SB with megaem.
Cheers,
Jens-Uwe Jansen
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 13:23:48 -0500
From: iclnl!pvh@relay.NL.net (Pieter van Horssen)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #27
> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 05:40:00 -0500
> From: Dennis-'t.Hart@lcnnl.sprint.com
> Subject: Gus and Cubase
> Message-ID: <"Mon Feb 27 05:40:38 199501*/G=Dennis-'t/S=Hart/OU=2496WVLC/O=TMNL.LCN/PRMD=LANGATE/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=GB/"@MHS>
>
> Yoh GUSSERS,
>
> I've got a Gus card and Cubase (Steinberg Midi program). I can't get
> the two to work together. I can't get any sound out of my GUS card.
> When I open a midi file and want to play it I hear .........NOTHING!
> When opening a Midi file in an other program it plays just fine, so
> it's not my midi setup.
>
> Can someone give me any clues? Or tell me that it just doesn't work!
Yoh, Dennis yourself,
I could this in Dutch, but for the sake of others I will stick to english.
The reason probably you do not get any sound s out of the GUS with Cubase,
is related to the version of your Cubase (you did not tell us the version).
Dynamic caching came with Cubase Score V.1.10 (thats what I use).
What you need to do is load (Gravis) Patchmanager and load the GUS with
one of the 'LOAD1024' MID files. The name depends on the amount of
memory on the GUS. This loads the patches in the card and if one of the
patches is in your Cubase tracks, it will work.
Good Luck (Succes)
Pieter van Horssen
pvh@iclnl.icl.nl
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 1995 14:58:37 -0500
From: rodman@wizvax.com (Josh Rodman)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V20 #1
>>It seems that the combinations in the titles don't works together...
>>I can't use smartdrv with the ultramid for mkii because i get somes
>>excption 6 or 13 error from qemm.... Can anybody help me...or tell
>>me if there is an other disk cache available which can works with
>>all the above??
>
>Yup... another guy. BTW, it's not just MKII. ALL extensive DOS4GW
>games cannot run with GUS (or even any sound card?) Qemm 7 (maybe 6?)
>and a disk cache loaded. I wrote to Quaterdeck... nothing there,
>they say it's the program who is not well written. Well, if OMF,
>DOOM, MKII, Heretic, Descent or not well written, what is?!? With
>EMM386 of course, there is not problem, everybody make there
>programs to run with MS crap, of course. Smartdrv and Mouse are
>about the only good thing they made up to date.
Well, QEMM does do some funky stuff that programs do not expect. I
ran into countless problems using it. However, I also have run into
many problems with Dos4g programs in general. High IRQs, crappy
DPMI performance, severe slowdowns for disk access.. etc. etc.
Whenever a DOS4Gw program gives me a headache, I rip out dos4gw and
replace it with PMODE/W, which 9 out of 10 times fixes the problems
and also makes it run faster.
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.13/demos/code/pmode/pmw116.zip
>Nway, my solution? Run HIMEM.SYS (with smartdrv if desired)...
>make 2 or 3 boot config.
Oh, yeah, I do that too.. one boot HIMEM, one boot EMM386, one
boot nothing, and used to have a QEMM boot, but it caused too many
problems.
--
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The Computer is your friend.
Be a happy Alpha Complex citizen.
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 08:46:11 -0500 (EST)
From: bill.hyman@ccmail.bsis.com
Subject: GUS on NT?
Does the GUS work under WIndows NT?
Bill Hyman
bill.hyman@bsis.com
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:11:01 GMT+2
From: "Zsolt Parak" <PARAK@cogpsyphy.hu>
Subject: Re: GUS problems with Doom/Doom2/Heretic
>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:56:16 -0500 (EST)
>From: karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna)
>Subject: GUS problems with Doom/Doom2/Heretic
>First, here's my setup . . .
>Regular GUS, set up for 240,3,3,15,5 (although I've already tried
>this as 240,3,3,7,5, and a few other combos)
>Reveal SC500, SBPro set up for 220,7,1, WSS set up for 530,11,0 (but
>that'susually not active), GMidi set up for 330,2(9), and Sony CD-
>ROM set up for 360 (PHEW!)
>Quantum Hardcard II/EZ 240
>Some (I forget which) local bus IDE/floppy/ser-par/game card
>S3 805 (I think) local bus VGA
>CPU is AMD486dx2/80
>My problem is tht I'm having trouble getting the GUS to work properly
>with Doom/Doom2/Heretic. The version of Doom is 1.2, and sound is
>pretty bad: music is draggy and slow, sound fx don't sound seem to
>vibrate (instead of kaboom, I hear kaboooooooooooomooomoom). Doom2
>is worse (both version 1.666 and 1.9). I hear sound fx, and there
>might be music. The problem is TONS and TONS and TONS of static
>drowning out everything!
>This happens, BTW, even if I remove the Reveal sound card. I'm
>wondering if the problem might be a conflict with the Hardcard:
>anyone tried that combo? Thanks!
Try to decrease the bus speed, 1/3 worked me with DX2-66.
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:02:25 +0200 (EET)
From: Niko Varjonen <nipava@utu.fi>
Subject: Gus with 32 Mb ram onboard?
I heard that according to reliable sources at Gravis, there's
gonna be a new Gus which is upgradeable to 32 megs of ram onboard..
It should be out by December 95.. Anybody got more info?
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 11:26:42 GMT0BST
From: "M.BLAGDON" <EAXMB@ean1.mecheng.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Gus with Aces of Deep\Wings of Glory
Hi,
I'm having trouble getting the GUS to run with these games.
Aces of the Deep - uses Sierra drivers. I've copied the gus drivers,
and install files. Install recognises the GUS, the intro gives sound
(uses different XMI(?) drivers), but nothing in the game - Any ideas.
Wings of Glory - tried sbos. Only works if Emm386 isn't loaded. Jerky
sound, and sometimes crashes. Any ideas?
My set up is - GUS v3.4 - software 3.57, settings 220,1,1,5,7
How difficult is it to install the GUS and a sound blaster? is it just a
case of selecting different interupts? I'd like sound in Wings.., but
still be able to use Mega-em for X-Wing.
Cheers,
Mark
Mark Blagdon B5 Clifton Block
Mechanical Engineering Dept
(0602) 513823 Nottingham University
Nottingham
NG7 2RD
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:24:18 +0000 ()
From: "Eric M. Busalacchi" <emb@herman.tiac.net>
Subject: iPhone?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.950302102305.9584B-100000@herman.tiac.net>
This is a little off the gus subject, but can someone tell me
about iPhone? Is it Shareware / Commercial? Any help is apreciated.
Thanks in advance!
--
Eric M. Busalacchi
emb@herman.tiac.net
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:51:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom <tom@infomatch.com>
Subject: Re: IPHONE and GUS
I am running regular Windows 3.1 with a very old GUS with 1 meg and
Ultrasound disks 3.57. Works fine for me, except at first the incoming
speech would break up a little if it was long. I think I fixed the
problem by adjusting the playback DMA size to 512 in the control panel.
Play with it and you should get it to work.
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 13:53:39 GMT
From: S94 <abrahami@cs.man.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: MicroProse wimps out!
What is Micropose's address?
cos i got something to say about them dropping GUS
ivar
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:33:27 +0100
From: "W.H. Li" <130314@pc-lab.fbk.eur.nl>
Subject: Midi
Hi Gussers
I own a GUS Max (512K) and I totally new in the world of MIDI.
Most of the MIDI files I played sound a bit "airy", missing
the weight I exspected. And also some of the files have got wrong
instruments. (I use Recording Session and Playmidi.) Is this caused by
the lack of RAM or is it wrong of me to think that MIDI files can
sound like a musical piece on CD?
I live in Holland and the store, where I bought the MAX, sells the
256k chip for f100,- (about $58). Is this a fair price?
If not, do you know a store in Holland where I can get it for less.
Or should I order directly from Gravis, is this possible for Holland?
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 00:37:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Dean Johnson <deanj@infinity.ccsi.com>
Subject: PC Gamer Reader's Choice Awards-VOTE for the GUS!
PC Gamer magazine has their first annual Reader's Choice Awards
survey in their March issue. In the sound card catagory they give
these choices: GUS, AWE32, SoundMan Wave, MediaVision Pro 3D, or
Audiotrix Pro. This is a great chance to give the GUS a boost.
Winners of all catagories will be announced at The Elctronic
Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles in May (and in the magazine I'm
sure).
FYI PC Gamer magazine ($7.95/month) comes with a CD-ROM each month
(or a 3.5in. if you don't have a CD-ROM drive) filled with commercial
game demos and select new shareware games. March's CD has: Dark Forces,
Cyclemania, Shadows of Cairn, Under a Killing Moon, Brett Hull Hockey,
Spectre VR, US Navy Fighters, World Cup of Golf, Wings of Glory, Drug
Wars, Klik and Play, The Incredible Machine 2, The Lemmings Chronicles
Capstone Sampler, DOOM I, II wads, and some game patches. ($48/yr.
subscruption, call 415-696-1661 insist on getting the March issue!)
It's worth 8 bucks and you can mail in your vote for the GUS. I know we
would all love to see the GUS win or atleast get second place.
-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 15:35:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Woldrich <davew@uofport.edu>
Subject: Welp, heeeeere's the results of the GUS memory poll
I had heard somewhere that the Internet was the world's only true
democracy. No one has a louder voice than anyone else.. That may be
true, but some of you people have to learn to USE that voice!! In my
informal survey/poll, I recieved a WHOPPING 14 letters on the subject.
[yawn] Anyhow, I know that there are many more folks on this list
concerned with future Gravis developments than a measly 15 people..
I even waited an extra day for late returns. Flame me if you want on this,
but I am very sad I even brought the issue up!
Returns:
256K?!!? : 1 (silly person!)
1meg : 10! (Why?)
2meg : 1 (You're getting warm..)
4meg : 1 + me (Y-Y-Y-YES!!!)
Four megabytes should be the Gravis/AMD nextgeneration card/chip's base
installed ram. Why?! To give developers a nice comfy standard of ram
that they can play with. Hopefully, Gravis will offer all of its
customers a nice upgrade price from their GUS/max to a GUS2 (or whatever
it will be called) That way, we can reverently retire the GUS and begin
pushing the new standard! But more memory is a key factor here, and I
believe cost should not be an issue especially with respect to the memory.
We need more memory for midi patches, more memory for sampling, and a
standard four megs is a nice comfortable middle ground.
David Woldrich (davew@wally.uofport.edu) | Majoring in Computer Science
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Not casting a vote means you lose bitching priveledges on the issue.
Life sucks.
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:16:07 +0200
From: mianmi@tukki.jyu.fi (Antti Mikkonen)
Subject: GUS MAX freezes my computer
I bought a new DX4/100 board and when I installed the Max card, the computer
will not start, I don't even get the BIOS setup or anything. The card worked
with
the old motherboard. What's wrong? Could the memory banks have broken?
_________________________
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:27:29 +0100
From: Martin Laukkanen <martin@triode.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: GUS memory poll.
>
> Four megabytes should be the Gravis/AMD nextgeneration card/chip's base
> installed ram. Why?! To give developers a nice comfy standard of ram
> that they can play with. Hopefully, Gravis will offer all of its
Thats stupid, four meg ram standard means that the card will be
$200 to $300 (Australia dollars) more. One of the GUS's main advantages
is very competive price! Also 99% of people CAN live with a bit of patch
caching, Most people dont need more than a couple of megs, for example
all the digital music lovers (MODs, S3Ms XM's), only need 1mb now, i say
in a years time that may be 2mb. I think the standard mem should start at
around 1 - 2mb if it is released before the end of this year. BUT dont
get me wrong, the GUS NEEDS to be `able' to have at least 16MB mem, 32MB,
but it doesnt 'need' that much standard!
----
Random OF xTatic....
or Martin OF Laukkanen. (martin@triode.apana.org.au)
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 14:00:31 EST
From: Hugo Scavino <hscavino@logsun01.med.osd.mil>
Subject: GUS on NT reply
Not! I called their BBS in Canada
about two months ago. They explicity
said they wwere NOT going to suuport
NT. They were though investigating
Windoze 95. NT has limitations
on how it talks to te hard-ware so there
are some differences. BUt you think if they
try to make it work on NT first they could
have a leg up on 95. Oh well...
I traded my bother my GUS for his proaudio. NO
Problems now. Does an one know if the ACE could
or does work on NT. Does it use need special
device drivers. Or does it directly support
General MIDI through the generic windows drivers?
If so this could be a solution.
Thanks Hugo
<no silly sig here>
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:40:53 -0500
From: bowling.30@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (sisco)
Subject: gus tech questions
Hello i have had my gus for about 4 months. i need to ask a few q's
first i can't get any thing from the mic & line in when using a mic.
and i have not tried say my guitar in the line in. i do not have cheep
mics they are very good. if i push the mic and gain levels in the windoze
mixer to the top, record. then play back i can only hear something if i turn
my stereo full volume. i do hear yackity shmackity blah blah blah. its me
but very distorted. my stereo tuner is really very loud which means the
signal is very small. poo! i have made a wav file off a my cd drive with
sound station. but thats it.
can i turn the patches i have back into wav files so i can then change
them around? i need a few effects on some patches.
what is winjammer. i think its another music prog. if it is where can
i get it?
lastly i need to know about extra memory i have 512k i need at least
2megs but i don't thing the card will swing it. but to go to 1meg i need
what? help me i need price, type. i'm a dumby so any details about the
"potato" chips would help me a great deal.
THE GUS IS THE BEAST hehehe
and BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks
sisco
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:18 GMT+0100
From: RTHI@btma74.se.bel.alcatel.be
Subject: HELL (the game)
I have the CDROM adventure game HELL. In the setup program I am able to
select Gravis Ultrasound as sound card but when I run the game I can
only hear some "peeping and noise". The game does work with MAXSBOS but
I would like to get native GUS support for this game.
Has anybody got this working?
BTW what is Iphone you're all talking about?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:02:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Buddy <cs3mh3dn@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: Hello?
I haven't received a digest in a while. Is it still going? Did I get dropped?
I had posted a question about OS/2 drivers a few days ago. Anyone answer it?
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 13:04:44 -0500 (EST)
From: bill.hyman@ccmail.bsis.com
Subject: Microprose e-mail address
Anybody who wants to write to Microprose regarding their decision to drop
all GUS support should address their letters to:
Brian
microprose@aol.com
No need to flame Microprose as they will probably just ignore your letter.
Just express your disappointment at their decision.
Bill Hyman
bill.hyman@bsis.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:57:41 +0001 (EST)
From: KEVIN BULL <kb94aa@badger.ac.BrockU.CA>
Subject: Re: Microprose wimps out!
I think we all oughta tell em what we think. There are a lot more GUS
users around than they seem to think. Imagine the noise if they decided
to drop SB support? Why stick to an old standard, when their games would
sound SO much better with the GUS support? I hope that other software
companies don't follow in their footsteps. Why would they decide to drop
it when other companies show that support, even under a dos extender is
possible? Is it a lack of programming talent, or is it that they just
can't be bothered?
Sorry for the grumbling, but I don't want to pay $65-$70 for software
that doesn't work with my hardware. Way to go Microprose!
.just my $.02 worth..
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:15:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: mike Roberts <mjr104@tmphost.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Missing Ultramid Header Files
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950302110731.18272A-100000@tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk>
I have recently subscribed to these mailing lists and need some help in
finding or writing some header files for use with ultramid. I recently
downloaded the GUS SDK and have been paying a lot of interest in
ultramid.doc. However to compile any of the example programs a few
header files like ultramid.h and midi.h are needed. It is possible to
construct a copy of ultramid.h from the documentation in the sense of
satisfying compiler errors but i can't get anything to run. I get a
few non-portable pointer conversion warnings or suspicious warnings as
I have not figured out the correct types for all of the header file.
I'm sure there is also a lot missing. Can anyone help me or point me
to a ftp site. I have looked but been unsuccessful. Anything to do with
ultramid would help.
Ta's
M
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 16:53:12 CST
From: Steve Sesterhenn <sesterhs@Janus-ccm.zenithe.com>
Subject: new GUS card RAM standards
This is in response to David Woldrich's posting about the amount of
RAM that should be standard on new Gravis cards. I sent a vote to
David in favor of making 1Mb standard. As can be seen by his results,
10 out of 14 people are in favor of this, so there must be a good
reason: affordability. David's argument that 4Mb would give
developers a "comfy standard" of ram to play with is definitely true.
But he neglects to mention that 4Mb of RAM today costs just over $300,
which would push the cost of the card well over the $400 price range.
This is simply unacceptable, as the card would not be affordable to
the majority of people who bought the original GUS as a low-cost
alternative to other wavetable cards that cost much more. If Gravis
were to only sell their new cards with 4Mb of RAM or more, they would
be alienating a huge market of people who would be perfectly happy
with only 1Mb (or can't afford 4Mb) but can't get it because it isn't
sold. In my opinion this would be an incredibly stupid move on
Gravis' part. Perhaps money is no object to David Woldrich but it
usually is to the rest of the world.
Putting one or (most likely) two megabytes standard would be a fair
compromise between David's and my arguments, and in my option, would
be Gravis' best bet.
Everyone reading ought to follow David's advice and USE your voice ont
the Internet to express your opinion on this idea. Those sitting back
just reading are either too lazy or just don't care... and you
probably wouldn't be reading this if you didn't care. So express your
opinion and be heard. The Internet is a great place to easily do it.
Cheers,
Steve
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 11:13 EST
From: samuel@gmgate.vircom.com (Samuel Audet)
Subject: Protected mode soft
Hi!
>Well, QEMM does do some funky stuff that programs do not expect. I
>ran into countless problems using it. However, I also have run into
>many problems with Dos4g programs in general. High IRQs, crappy
>DPMI performance, severe slowdowns for disk access.. etc. etc.
I don't load DMPI... it doesn't do anything, VCPI is better and many
programs tries to access DPMI but crashs.
Have to use QEMM... I'm using DESQview :)
>Whenever a DOS4Gw program gives me a headache, I rip out dos4gw and
>replace it with PMODE/W, which 9 out of 10 times fixes the problems
>and also makes it run faster.
>ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.13/demos/code/pmode/pmw116.zip
I once looked at that program, BUT HOW can we use it? We have to recompile
the hole program?!?
>>Nway, my solution? Run HIMEM.SYS (with smartdrv if desired)...
>>make 2 or 3 boot config.
>
>Oh, yeah, I do that too.. one boot HIMEM, one boot EMM386, one
>boot nothing, and used to have a QEMM boot, but it caused too many
>problems.
Have a full QEMM boot, full EMM386, full HIMEM.SYS, a "game" HIMEM.SYS and a
"game" EMM386 boot. Handy :) This Quickboot is handy also... now if just
Desperado BOOT could just work with the TSR CENTER.COM is would be AWESOME!!
Hum... this is not GUS anymore :) If you reply, reply to me directly.
Thanks, Bye!
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 01:14 GMT
From: tbone@cix.compulink.co.uk (Chris Totten)
Subject: Reply from Gravis about Windows'95
I sent off a message to gravis asking about drivers and here's what I got
back - nice one Gravis :)
// tbone
--------------------------------< snip >--------------------------------
TO: tbone@cix.compulink.co.uk
T>It looks like the interest for Windows'95 is going to be *amazing*, so
T>are you working on up-to-date 32bit drivers for this great OS?? I'm
We will have windows 95 driver when it is shipped.
-----------------------------------------------------
Paul Malcolm
Tech Support/Sysop
Advanced Gravis Computer Technology
Tech Support email: tech@gravis.com
Fidonet Add: Paul Malcolm - 1:153/978
03/01/95 12
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 13:33:52 CST
From: Steve Sesterhenn <sesterhs@Janus-ccm.zenithe.com>
Subject: Right to Privacy?, Senate Bill S. 314
I know this has nothing to do with the GUS, with it has everything to do
with the digest, considering the bill would apply to the digest as well.
Therefore, I find this important enough to post to the GUS digest. Hope
you all agree.
-Steve
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RE: Right to Privacy?, Senate Bill S. 314
Hello everyone.
This is a very important piece of information brought
to my attention by a friend on AOL. If you value your privacy in your
email you should definently follow through with what is proposed
below.
Simply put, a couple of senators have proposed a particularly
heinous piece of legislation titled the "Communications
Decency Act of 1995" (Senate Bill S. 314). Basically, the
bill would subject all forms of electronic communication --
from public Internet postings to your most private email --
to government censorship. The effects of the bill onto the
online industry would be devastating -- most colleges and
private companies (AOL, Compuserve, etc.) would probably have
to shut down or greatly restrict access, since they would be
held criminally liable for the postings and email of private
users.
A petition, to be sent to Congress, the President, and the media,
has begun spreading through the Internet. It's easy to participate
and be heard -- to sign it, you simply follow the instructions below
-- which boil down to sending a quick email message to a certain
address. That's all it takes to let your voice be heard. (You know,
if the Internet makes democracy this accessible to the average
citizen, is it any wonder Congress wants to censor it?)
Finally, PLEASE forward this message to all your friends online.
The more people sign the petition, the more the government will
get the message to back off the online community. We've been doing
fine without censorship until now -- let's show them we don't plan on
allowing them to start now. If you value your freedoms -- from
your right to publicly post a message on a worldwide forum to your
right to receive private email without the government censoring it --
you need to take action NOW. It'll take fifteen minutes at the most,
a small sacrifice considering the issues at hand. Remember, the age
of fighting for liberty with muskets and shells is most likely over;
the time has come where the keyboard and the phone line will prove
mightier than the sword -- or the Senate, in this case.
Here's what you have to do to sign the petition:
send an e-mail message to: S314-petition@netcom.com
the message (NOT the subject heading) should read as follows:
SIGNED <your online address> <your full name> <U.S. Citizen (y/n)>
eg. SIGNED lsewell@leland.Stanford.EDU Laura Sewell YES
If you are interested in signing the petition, I would highly suggest
investigating the details of the situation. You can find out more on
the Web at http://www.wookie.net/~slowdog or in the newsgroup
comp.org.eff.talk
This was written by someone else so I can't take credit for the
verbage, but please follow through if you believe it is important.
Thanks,
John
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 11:31:27 GMT
From: dwj@kid01pml.icl.co.uk (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Sound Station & CD Audio
[Posted to music digest:]
>Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:44:07
>From: "Acs Attila - Discord of Exact" <G3ACSATT@gyakg.u-szeged.hu>
>Subject: Sound Station
>
>Hi everybody!
>
>I'm a GUS MAX owner, and I have an AZTECH CD-ROM too.
>My problem is, that Sound Station always tells me, my
>CD is empty. Thats why I can't play any audio CD-s through
>my GUS. Can anyone help me?
>
>Address: G3ACSATT@gyakg.u-szeged.hu
I have just bought a Mitsumi IDE Quad speed CD-ROM and couldn't get
Sound Station to work either. The I realised you need the [MCI] CD Audio
windows driver installed. After that, no problem - at least for me.
Incidentally, I found the CD Audio-in connector (Mitsumi) on the MAX had the
pins wired up back-to-front - either that or the audio cable itself was wired
incorrectly. It's easy enough to rewire the audio cable. Has anyone else found
this problem?
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:02:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Buddy <cs3mh3dn@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: subscribe
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:52:30 -0500
From: C Lacy <cblacy@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Where to get Patches
Does anybody out there know of a good place to get replacement
patches for the GUS? I've had a look at the ones in the archive (
pp-3*.zip files) and there doesn't seem to be much selection.
Specifically I'm looking for better trumpet, violin, and sax patches.
Thanks for any help,
Cameron Lacy
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:32:12 -0600 (CST)
From: "Jeff M. Krusz" <krusz@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Windows Problem
I have the 5.48 GUS (or whatever is the newest ones on epas) drivers
and they seem to be interfereing with the windows timer. After using
windows a couple of times, suddenly I cannot open a dos box, and when
trying to dial someplace the time remaining doesn't update regularly
(in otherwords the timer starts at 45 and doesn't change until I
connect (it then goes to the correct elapsed time)). By uninstalling
the GUS drivers and reinstalling them from the ultrasnd\windows
directory the problem goes away for another 2 or three restarts of
windows. The only new thing that I have added to my computer is the
updated drivers so it cannot be a conflict with some other device(IRQ
and DMA settings are all the same as before too). Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
--
Jeff Krusz | Quick to judge/ Quick to anger
krusz@krypton.mankato.msus.edu | Slow to understand
krusz@vax1.mankato.msus.edu | Ignorance and prejudice/ And fear
krusz@msus1.msus.edu | Walk hand in hand --RUSH
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:26:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Slobodian <ay024@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: XCOM
I know that this question was asked before, But how do you get
XCOM: Defense to work with the GUS card?
PS- Anyone know a ftp site where I can pick up recent back-issues of the
Digest?
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